Some of my urodela

[Andy W.]

Here some pictures from my Urodela :

juvenile Salamandra s. terrestris


Triturus cristatus male


Mesotriton alpestris couple


Salamandra s. terrestris, adult females


Mesotriton alpestris female


Salamandra s. salamandra adult female


juvenile Triturus carnifex female



Greetings, Andy

[Coen Deurloo]

Nice animals Andy! Your T. cristatus looks more like a T. dobrogicus to me though!

[kevin]

Nice animals. And Like Coen say`d it also like a T. dobrogicus to me.

[Andy W.]

Well, thanks a lot....

But, the Triturus cristatus is 100% cristatus and no dobrogicus. It is one out of my own bread  ;D

Greetings, Andy

[Coen Deurloo]

Andy, I'm 99 percent sure it carries at least T. dobrogicus genes, the resemblance is too big to call it a pure T. cristatus.

See pictures of both species here for reference.

[Andy W.]

Hi Coen...

I won´t dissapoint you, but I KNOW that it is Cristatus. Up to the beginning of the 80s of last century, it was allowed in Germany to catch Triturus. Well, as a young boy  ;D I did this at Teverner Heide  ::). Don´t worry, all my species are announced since over 20 years at the local Environmental Agency. :) Today, the pool I cought them, doesn´t excist anymore! The pool got eliminated because of these AWACS-planes, which are based here.  :-\
So, as it is one out of this bloodline, it is 100% cristatus. Here never would have lived any dobrogicus ;)

Andy

[Wouter]

It's just a light coloured T. cristatus with a large crest indeed! In the south of this species range, almost all individuals look like these. Don't be fooled by the colour, you can see from the short body shape that this cannot be T. dobrogicus.

[Coen Deurloo]

Interesting story! Maybe it's the reflection from the flash that makes it look more like a T. dobrogicus, the orange coloration makes him look like one.

[Andy W.]

Well,

in the next weeks I will get also some T.dobrogicus, than I can compare one with each other ;)

I will post than a photo with both species here at the board ;)

Greetings, Andy

[jemull]

When i first saw the T.cristatus on your picture i also thought it was a T.dobrogicus. Because my T.dobrogicus male look just like your T.cristatus on the picture. But when i heard about your story, that you say that you caught it in your area. Then it is a bigger chance that it is an T.cristatus.